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PostSubject: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Wed 11 Mar 2009, 4:04 am

This guy is really moving!! This Gilson is the same year as mine, but he has it wide open!! I tilled at about 3/4 throttle and it never bogged down once, this guy needs to slow down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZdDRupnad8
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Wed 11 Mar 2009, 4:15 am

Best I can tell he is in second gear, first gear is about a third as fast as second.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Wed 11 Mar 2009, 6:29 pm

Dang man he was movin on!! lol!

Heres the video for people whose computers arent link friendly lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Wed 11 Mar 2009, 6:47 pm

Thanks John, now if only I could learn to do that. lol!
I have to try it out sometime, see if I can follow directions from the thread about it. lol!

But ya, that guy is moving, and he needs to cut the RPMs, that is tractor abuse... Where are "Tractor Protective Services" when it counts? lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Thu 12 Mar 2009, 11:53 pm

That thing sounds strong,doesn't seem to bog it down very much at all,thats actually really turning the dirt.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 12:40 am

You should see the pics of me tilling mom's garden Ken, in fact... I need to see them too... Wonder where mom put them... Hmmmm lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 2:13 am

Cut the RPMs??
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 2:17 am

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Cut the RPMs??

Yes, cut, as in take it down a notch, reduce, lower, use less, or divide by a fraction. lol!

I thought that term was fairly common... Now we know, and so do you. Glad you asked or I wouldn't have known. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 2:18 am

air cooled engines should be run at full throttle for cooling purposes,, now you know!!
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 2:25 am

I never run an air-cooled engine at full throttle unless it is the mowing tractor, and I have never had an issue with cooling... it's going to cool wether it is running at 2500 or 3500 RPM. My feeling is the higher the RPM the more wear and tear on the engine.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 10:10 am

Casey not trying to argue but just trying to help out here are some of the reasons. Why should I run my engine at full throttle? My battery does not seem to recharge properly? My engine seems to run hot even at low throttle, why?

It is necessary to run an air cooled engine at its highest rpm for the following few reasons.

A) The engine’s cooling and lubrication systems are designed to operate best when the throttle control is in the highest position. Running the engine at a lower speed will decrease the flow of cooling air and the volume of oil circulated. These two factors will shorten engine life.


B) The engine’s carburetor is adjusted so that the engine operates most cleanly and efficiently at full throttle. Operating outside or below the optimum speed range for the engine and carburetor produces less power.

C) Everything driven by the engine (eg. cutting blades) is/are designed to turn at the speed maintained by the engine’s governor when the throttle is at the highest position. Running the engine at a lower speed will result in lesser performance and excess vibration.


D) Models equipped with engines that have DC electric starters and battery systems and have engines that recharge the battery may result in poor battery recharge rate if the engine is not operated at full RPM. These engines have stators that produce recharge electrical current to the battery circuit only when properly tuned and operated at full RPM. Most frequently the report of poor battery recharging can be traced to customers that do not keep the throttle at full. On tractors, and other self-propeled units, the engine should be kept at full throttle whenever possible and the ground speed should be regulated by shifting into a lower gear or using the ground speed control. Do not use the engine throttle to regulate ground speed or the battery will not get sufficient electrical current to maintain charge.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 1:04 pm

i always run my stuff full out and havent had a problem yet lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 8:45 pm

Well gotta tell ya guys I just never did like dumping the throttle and running wide open I know especially on hydro's you are supposed to but I just hated a engine wound up as tight as it would go.I've never ever blow a motor up using my method but thats just me I just hate the sound of a engine winding it's guts out.I do understand a air cooled engine needing lots of air to run cool but man winding them out I could just never do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 9:51 pm

yet again many opionions only the manufatures know the real story lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Fri 13 Mar 2009, 10:04 pm

I know how many RPMs I will run my air cooled engines at, less than all of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Sat 14 Mar 2009, 1:17 am

Nathan Werneburg wrote:
yet again many opionions only the manufatures know the real story lol!

Well in all honestry nate my opinion on the manufactures specs is hell yea run wide open blow it up and we will sell you another one, Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Sat 14 Mar 2009, 1:56 am

all I was stateing is he said it was tractor abuse running it wide open when actually he is doing what is right.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Sat 14 Mar 2009, 12:26 pm

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all I was stateing is he said it was tractor abuse running it wide open when actually he is doing what is right.

Oh I defintily understand what your saying 312 and really I wasn't trying to throw a smart a$$ comment in there.I'm just saying for my self I can't hardly stand winding a engine out.I know you are right in what the manufacturer says.I just hate doing it myself is all. Very Happy
I do know especially with a hydro your supposed to wind them out to get the pump turning good so I know what your saying . cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Sat 14 Mar 2009, 1:52 pm

That is true and by putting it at full throttle on the dash is far from full throttle that is just the set rpms the factory has set for the engine. As I am sure you know you can rev them quite a bit higher than that setting but the other components of the machine are set to run at the designated speed. So if not running at full then the generator, pto, and pumps are not runnng at the correct speed either.
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PostSubject: Re: Looks like my Gilson, sounds like it too!!   Sat 14 Mar 2009, 8:03 pm

tracktor312 wrote:
That is true and by putting it at full throttle on the dash is far from full throttle that is just the set rpms the factory has set for the engine. As I am sure you know you can rev them quite a bit higher than that setting but the other components of the machine are set to run at the designated speed. So if not running at full then the generator, pto, and pumps are not runnng at the correct speed either.

Exactly I know what your saying Very Happy
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