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PostSubject: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 6:12 pm

I know it's not a GT.....LOL....but a lady was tossing this, so guess where it ended up?....Yeah, in my trailer......Going to fix it up for my daughter.





I found that it is missing some parts....The blade, the shaft and the pulley that goes on top of the deck. Wondering where and how much this stuff will cost....and how hard it will be to find. I think finding a 28" blade is going to be hard.

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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 8:50 pm

if you cant find another blade you should be able to take a bigger one and cut it down to size. Also dont underestimate what you can do with those RER. Just ask that Nate character lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 9:01 pm

wow man i got an ariens deck and an JD deck for a rear but cant help ya with the parts they could be rather pricey but if u wait longenough u will come up with the parts dirt cheap im shure of it
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 9:06 pm

I tell ya poncho i'm not a big rear engine rider fan but this is pretty rare I'd say i 've never seen one so it's kinda cool buddy and can't beat the price Smile shoot man I always feel lucky when I get the briggs like is on the back of that one.One of the most used versital engines ever used.I always grab up every one I run accross.Good find my friend.KW
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 9:07 pm

the snapper mowers have 28" decks also possibly you could just convert to a snapper setup looks like you need all the parts anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 9:08 pm

waht is that about 8 HP?

Just outta curiousity how much does that thing weigh? Cant be much....
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 10:24 pm

8 hp B&S.......I put gas and oil in it, checked the plug, spun her over a bit, put the plug back in and she started right up........surges a bit, probably junk in the carb. ....Theres a small engine guy up the road with lots of junk....maybe he will have something I can use to fix the deck....the bearings are there, but not much else.

The book says it weighs 340 lbs
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 11:16 pm

On those briggs poncho when they surge it's usually always the low idle speed screw,pop the air cleaner off adjust the top screw in or out a bit and i'll be it will stop Smile KW
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 21 Apr 2009, 11:17 pm

oh forgot to add, have it idled down when you do it,it will be easier to adjust that way,you may already know this ...KW
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 8:52 am

Thanks....I messed with the high speed screw and it didn't make any difference..........When I turned the idle down, it did stop, but when you speed it up it comes back.....Will pop the air cleaner off today........It was pretty dirty too, may opt for a new element.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 11:12 am

I would take a deal like that any day of the week. I would have gave $50 for that , even more if I had it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 1:38 pm

Sorry...cant do it, my daughter really needs something......

Chased over hecks half acre this morning looking for parts....The place I know of with a bunch of used crap, guy was not there, so I went to my usual parts guy...Says that Bolens sold to MTD and the Bolens line was scrapped........he sent me even further up the road to some little hick town. Seems he used to be a Bolens dealer, before MTD bought them out and started putting the Bolens name on their crap. Anyways, he isn't there either, on vacation I guess, as there was a note that he would be back next week.....will try again first, managed to get a phone number and will call first.........wasted about $20 worth of gas......but its raining today again, so not much else to do.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 4:58 pm

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On those briggs poncho when they surge it's usually always the low idle speed screw,pop the air cleaner off adjust the top screw in or out a bit and i'll be it will stop Smile KW

Messed with the screws, but still surged.......Took it apart and cleaned, blew it all out....still did it.

There is a little screw that goes into the housing on top...It doesn't have a needle on the end, but has a little hole in the bottom. I turned it out 1/4 turn and that cured it. Only thing is, the screw, not being bottomed out is loose now and turns real easy. I put a drop of Locktite on the threads and put it back in..........This isn't the hi speed screw you were talking about, was it?
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 5:56 pm

hate to tell you but that Bolens you got is an MTD (as you called it piece of crap)

I on the other hand happen to be a big fan of MTD, at least the older and heavy duty stuff.

As far as something to just mow with its hard to beat the price of cheap little MTDs, look at what you paid for yours nothing, thats the best thing about the newer MTDs, but I would never waste the money on a brand new one.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 7:09 pm

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hate to tell you but that Bolens you got is an MTD (as you called it piece of crap)

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Are you sure?.......The manual that I got with it, just says Bolens on it, there is no date on it either.......The small engine guy I deal with says its an older Bolens and thats why he cant get parts.....From what I know, MTD bought Bolens in 2001 and I figure its older than that.

I also plugged a couple of the parts numbers in on the MTD parts site.....got nothing.

Anyways,....I will keep plugging away, looking for parts....may have to adapt something.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 8:13 pm

give us some numbers. maybe someone can find something
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 22 Apr 2009, 9:01 pm

OK...would appreciate it.....Its a Bolens 2027.

Parts I need the most are..I will type whats in the manual..

1751494 Sheave Assembly (A)(B)(C)(E)

1762773 Shaft Assembly, Blade Drive (A)(B)(C)(E)

I don't know what the ABCE stands for......doesn't list them on the diagram.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Thu 23 Apr 2009, 10:05 am

Located a sheave assembly... I don't know if you were looking local or are ok with ordering and having it shipped...

Haralds Small Engine
5214 Jasmine Rd
Billings, MO 65610
www.haraldsonline.com
mowergal@mowisp.net
417-743-2491

On their website you can search inventory by spreadsheet or pdf which will show two hits on the 1751494 part number... of course you can just call, too... not sure why but one says sheave assembly, the other says pulley, so might want to check with them.

I just ordered a part from them and shipping was $4... very reasonable.

Hope this helps!

J

ps - oh yeah, the part is categorized under "troybilt bolens" not "mtd" so would have to agree with you on the mfr Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Thu 23 Apr 2009, 2:02 pm

Thanks J.....will keep it in mind, if my local guy doesn't pan out.....

according to the diagram, the sheave is the pulley.........Now, I am not sure what they mean by assembly....maybe just the nut etc to fasten it, or maybe the whole pulley, shaft and other hardware....would have to call.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 28 Apr 2009, 5:37 pm

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ohmar99 wrote:
hate to tell you but that Bolens you got is an MTD (as you called it piece of crap)

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Are you sure?.......The manual that I got with it, just says Bolens on it, there is no date on it either.......The small engine guy I deal with says its an older Bolens and thats why he cant get parts.....From what I know, MTD bought Bolens in 2001 and I figure its older than that.

I also plugged a couple of the parts numbers in on the MTD parts site.....got nothing.

Anyways,....I will keep plugging away, looking for parts....may have to adapt something.


No I was thinking that MTD bought Bolens from FMC but I think there was an owner in between. However, I dont think yours looks that old. Im not ripping on yours or MTD, I hope you did not take it that way. When I defend newer MTDs its just because you can buy them dirt cheap or free whenever you need one, however you have to be willing to work on them.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Tue 28 Apr 2009, 5:43 pm

LOL...no offense taken Ohmar.......Was just going on what my parts guy was telling me, that MTD was buying up all these companies just to slap the name on their stuff.........I figure that if they can buy the companies, instead of them buying MTD, they must be doing something right.


BTW...Toro owned Bolens for a while.......


Went out and picked up a 38" deck for it today.....going to adapt it the the Bolens.......Will take some pics as I get things together........
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 29 Apr 2009, 4:30 am

MTD riding mowers have always given us fits, at least ours, but some are as reliable as the sun. The MTD we have has been abused by us for the last decade. As much as I despise it for letting us down occasionally when we've needed it, I have to admit, it does get the mowing down once it's running.

I think the thing MTD is doing right is buying up the different brands to stick those names on their mowers. If you think about it, us tractor guys are very brand specific when we buy our tractors, new or used. For instance, I bought a Case 222 recently because it had my name on it, even though they were made by Ingersoll. Someone that buys only Cub Cadet is now buying an MTD in disguise, when before they wouldn't have even touched an MTD with a 10 foot pole. MTD is buying the riding mower market rather methodicly, they hit the lesser brands first to get more market share, now they are buying brands like Cub Cadet. It is truely only a matter of time before they get a hold of the John Deere riding mower line. Now that companies are having to reevaluate their markets there will be more companies droping entire product lines completely, if not selling them off to other companies.

I know I may have a couple incorrect facts, but for the most part it should be fairly accurate. I am not trying to bash any brands, I am just stating my observations.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 29 Apr 2009, 9:17 am

poncho62 wrote:
LOL...no offense taken Ohmar.......Was just going on what my parts guy was telling me, that MTD was buying up all these companies just to slap the name on their stuff.........I figure that if they can buy the companies, instead of them buying MTD, they must be doing something right.


BTW...Toro owned Bolens for a while.......


Went out and picked up a 38" deck for it today.....going to adapt it the the Bolens.......Will take some pics as I get things together........

I would say you are right because all of the parts that I have found that look like they may fit yours (none that you need of course) are also fit the toro models like it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 29 Apr 2009, 9:21 am

wvbuzzmaster wrote:
MTD riding mowers have always given us fits, at least ours, but some are as reliable as the sun. The MTD we have has been abused by us for the last decade. As much as I despise it for letting us down occasionally when we've needed it, I have to admit, it does get the mowing down once it's running.

I think the thing MTD is doing right is buying up the different brands to stick those names on their mowers. If you think about it, us tractor guys are very brand specific when we buy our tractors, new or used. For instance, I bought a Case 222 recently because it had my name on it, even though they were made by Ingersoll. Someone that buys only Cub Cadet is now buying an MTD in disguise, when before they wouldn't have even touched an MTD with a 10 foot pole. MTD is buying the riding mower market rather methodicly, they hit the lesser brands first to get more market share, now they are buying brands like Cub Cadet. It is truely only a matter of time before they get a hold of the John Deere riding mower line. Now that companies are having to reevaluate their markets there will be more companies droping entire product lines completely, if not selling them off to other companies.

I know I may have a couple incorrect facts, but for the most part it should be fairly accurate. I am not trying to bash any brands, I am just stating my observations.




I agree Casey, I will never say the newer MTDs are built as good as others, there biggest selling point to me is the price you can get them for. I dont really think any of the new ones are built the way they used to be, maybe Ingersoll. I think most of us would agree on that one.
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PostSubject: Re: Bolens 2027   Wed 29 Apr 2009, 11:13 am

Ya, I believe that Ingersoll is the last real garden tractor being produced in the modern market.
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